Interview with John Alden Dunn

John Alden Dunn was interviewed by Randall J. Bunn on November 21, 2018 at the Southern Utah Veterans Home in Ivins, Washington County, Utah. He related his military experiences. Brady Fronk also participated.

RB:I want talk to John a little bit about some of his memories of his war experiences during World War II. Before [we] start, I want to ask you about your childhood. What do you remember? Where were you born?

JD:[I was born in] Georgetown, Idaho.

RB:Your father was Noah Brady Dunn and your mother Abigail Eliza (Tippetts) Dunn. You said you were born on August 29, 1919 and there were seven children in your family. Where did you fit in the order of the children?

JD:[I was the] last [child].

RB:You were the baby. Are any of your siblings still alive?

JD:No, I am the last one [alive].

RB:What do you remember about growing up, in [your] early years, in Georgetown, Idaho?

JD:[In] my very early life, I guess, [when] I was about five [years old]. I didn't get any money, I guess, [I was the] water boy.

RB:Water boy? You were a water boy for what? What did you do?

JD:My dad raised a lot of hay and a lot of wheat and he hired help. I was hired 00:02:00to keep the drinking water fresh, [but] I never got any money.

RB:Didn't get paid, but you had a job. That was your chore? [Laughter] Okay! So your father was a farmer. He raised wheat and what else?

JD:Hay.

RB:Would he sell that to the ranchers with cattle and cows?

JD:You got it right!

RB:[Was] Georgetown a pretty small town?

JD:It was a farming community.

RB:So you grew up in the 1920s. Were they good times?

JD:That time in my life was good.

RB:You were the youngest and did you learn some things from your older brothers and sisters [while] growing up?

JD: I always thought I was a pretty good singer.

RB:[Laughter] How did you learn to sing? Just on your own?

JD:Yes.

RB:That is good! Was your mother a singer?

JD:She had a beautiful voice.

RB:That is nice. Did you ever have a radio in the house and listened to [programs]?

JD:Yes.

RB:Do you remember any [programs] that you listen to on the radio?

JD:[We] used to listen to Bob Hope and Jack Benny a lot.

RB:That must have been fun. How about the big band director? I forget his name ─ Guy Lombardo. Do you ever remember listening to him?

JD:Sure do!

RB:When the crash took place [in] the stock market, 1929, you were about ten years old. Then we kind of moved into The [Great] Depression era.

JD:The what?

RB:We moved into The [Great] Depression after the fall, or the crash, of the stock market. What do you remember about the depression years?

JD:I remember very well it was very hard to come by any earnings. I sold a lot 00:05:00of newspapers.

RB:How much did a newspaper [sell] for?

JD:[They were] $.05 [each].

RB:What newspaper did you sell?

JD:I started with the Salt Lake Tribune. Do you know much about it?

RB:I [have] read the Salt Lake Tribune. It [is] one of the major papers in the area. Right?

JD:Do you remember the heavy weight boxers, Gene Tunney and Jack Dempsey?

RB:Yes!

JD:Do you?

RB:I don't remember personally, but I [have] read about them. Jack Dempsey was a famous boxer.

JD:I remember [a] fight they had one time. Tunney, did you pronounce it Tunney or Tuney?

RB:I am not sure.

JD:Well, we will say Tunney. In early [rounds] of the fight he knocked Dempsey 00:06:00down. Dempsey came back and knocked him out and won the fight.

RB:Is that right? I don't know [about] that fight in particular. Was that [when] he won the championship?

JD:Yes. Yes, he was the world heavy weight boxing champion.

RB:Wow! And that was the boxing round that gave him that title with Tunney? Did you read the newspaper when you would sell them?

JD:Yes.

RB:You followed the news of what was going on in Salt Lake [City, Salt Lake County, Utah] or in the world, country?

JD:Golf.

RB:Yes. [Laughter] FDR, [Franklin Delano] Roosevelt, [was] elected in 1932. You 00:07:00are about thirteen years old. Do you remember that election at all?

JD:[I] sure do.

RB:Yes? What did you think about old FDR?

JD:I liked him.

RB:Did you? Did some people not like him very well?

JD:A few.

RB:Yes? Why did you like him? What did you think he did for the country?

JD: I think he did a lot, helped bring us out of The [Great] Depression.

RB:Do you?

JD:Yes.

RB:I guess one of the things that they did in some of the rural areas was getting [young men] working again with CCC, the Civilian Conversation Corps and the WPA [Works Project Administration]. Did you ever see any of [those projects] 00:08:00going in Idaho or Logan [Cache County, Utah]?

JD:I just remember that [those projects] were going on.

RB:Now when did you move to Logan?

JD:[When did I] move to Logan -- let me think. About 1925.

RB:So you were still a young boy [of] about six or seven years old. Your father had a farm in Logan also?

JD:No.

RB: No? What did he do in Logan?

JD: Very little. All I remember about him is [that] he had a job. [Do] you remember [the] Utah-Idaho Sugar Company?

RB: Yes, I [have] heard of [it].

JD: They had [a] plant in Logan. When they hauled the sugar beets in from the 00:09:00fields, the trucks would pull up to this water-trough ─ a wooden trough built from the parking area for the cars and trucks. [The trough] flowed long enough to get the water out to the beets. My dad's job was to keep that water flowing along. Sometimes the beets would clog it up.

RB:Yes, that is right. I can imagine so, he had to keep [the beets] moving and the water helped moving [the beets] along the trough?

JD:Yes.

RB:I can imagine that. Your mother was at home, I take it, taking care of the 00:10:00[children]? [Do] you remember what kind of food you ate growing up? What did your mom cook for meals?

JD: We had some kind of vegetables all the time.

RB:Did she grow [them] in the garden?

JD:Yes.

RB:Did you have chickens around the house?

JD: Yes.

RB:Did she cook some chicken? Sometimes [did you] have eggs?

JD:What?

RB: Did you have the eggs? Did you ever have to go gather up the eggs?

JD: No.

RB:Who did that in the family?

JD:[My] older sisters [and] older brothers.

RB: How about feeding the chickens, did you have to do that?

JD: No.

RB:So they took care of the chickens. What were your chores around the house? Other than keeping the water going for the workers.

JD:That was about all.

RB:That was about all? Okay. What kind of games or what kind of recreation did you do as a young boy growing up in Logan? Did you play sports at all?

JD: A little later I played a lot of basketball [and a] lot of baseball.

RB:Did you ever have games around the neighborhood with the other [youngsters] your age?

JD:No.

RB: Were there [youngsters] your age [in your neighborhood] when you were growing up that you played with?

JD:No.

RB:Not so much? What was school like growing up? Did you like school?

JD: Yes, I liked it.

RB: [Did you] have a favorite subject?

JD: I guess I will say arithmetic.

RB:You liked that? [Laughter] That is good! Kind of challenging, but kind of fun.

JD: Yes.

RB:I am assuming that you went to grammar school. Did that last [for] eight years? [Until the] eighth grade or how long was your grammar school.

JD: [It was] six grades.

RB:Then where did you go?

JD: [We went to] junior high [school].

RB:You had a junior high [school] there in Logan? Was that three years?

JD:Yes.

RB: Then high school was three years, tenth through twelve [grades]. When you got to high school were you involved in any activities? Did you play sports in high school?

JD:[I played] basketball.

RB:Basketball, mainly, okay. Anything else that you did in high school that you remember?

JD: No.

RB:You told me you graduated in 1937. In high school did you have a favorite subject?

JD:A favorite subject?

RB: Yes.

JD:I guess I have to say typing.

RB: Typing? You learned how to [use] a typewriter? Yes, that is kind of fun. When you graduated what did you do?

JD: When I graduated, I was working in a small drive-in café where cars pulled 00:14:00in off the main street and parked on café grounds. We would take their orders and take their [food] out to the car and hand it to them on one of those trays. It hooked on the window.

RB: Your job was to take the food out to the cars?

JD: Right.

RB:[Do] you remember the name of that drive-in?

JD:Let me think. [It was] Don's Barbeque

RB:Don's Barbeque in Logan, Utah.

JD: It was right on Main Street.

RB:How long did you work for Don's Barbeque?

JD:Maybe two years.

RB:What did they pay you?

JD:What?

RB: How much did you earn there?

JD:[Laughter] Do I have to tell you that? [Laughter]

RB: Sure, it is really interesting. Times have changed, but what was the going rate for an hour of work there?

JD:A $1.00 an hour!

RB: A $1.00 an hour? Times have sure changed, [right]? [Laughter]

JD:[Laughter] Sure have!

RB: Yes. Did you have friends you worked with at Don's Barbeque? Did you do things with some of your co-workers?

JD: I can't say that they were really friends. I had other [fellows who] worked with me.

RB: Sure. [Did] you continue working there after you graduated from high school?

JD: [For a] short time. I got a job ─ are you acquainted with Logan?

RB: Not very much. I been there a few times.

JD: There is a small hotel right down town on Main Street.

RB:What is it called?

JD: Eccles [Hotel]. Ever been there?

RB: No, but I know that [Eccles] is a pretty common Utah name ─ the Eccles family. Is that when you were a bell hop?

JD: No. I got the bellhop job later.

RB: What did you do at the hotel?

JD: [I] ran the elevator [and] helped check people in and out of their room. I [helped with] their luggage ─ I carried their luggage.

RB:What did you earn doing that? Do you remember?

JD:They paid me a $1.00 a day and tips.

RB:Did you get some good tips?

JD: Pretty good.

RB:Did you like that job?

JD: Yes.

RB:That sounds kind of fun, actually.

JD: The money they paid me and the tips I could come up with about $100.00 a month.

RB: That was pretty good for a young man.

JD: That was good.

RB: Absolutely. Were you still living at home?

JD: Yes.

RB: So you were working ─ had you started dating girls at that time?

JD: Later.

RB: When you started dating, what kind of things would you do? Would you go to dances or?

JD: Dances mostly.

RB:Did you like to dance?

JD: Oh, yes!

RB:[Laughter] What kind of dancing did you do?

JD: Just regular ballroom dancing.

RB: Where did you learn to do ballroom dancing?

JD: Are you acquainted with Logan?

RB: Not so much, but you went to get lessons?

JD:I guess I have to tell you the first [dancing] was in about the eighth grade in junior high. The [students] would bring their lunch to school. After they had eaten their lunch [we would go to] the gym [and] we [would] dance for awhile to [music from the] nickelodeon.

RB:The nickelodeon was a machine they had there [in] the gym?

JD:You remember those?

RB:Yes, barely. [I remember being at] a restaurant or someplace and you put some money in, I think, it was a quarter by the time I was growing up. You could pick the song you wanted to play. It would play a forty-five [rpm] record. I don't know what they had in 1930s. So you learned to dance in the eighth grade?

JD: Yes.

RB: That was nice. Did you get pretty good at it?

JD: I felt I was doing pretty good. [Laughter]

RB: [Laughter] I bet you were! Did the girls like to dance with you?

JD: I can't say that.

RB: No, I know. You are a pretty modest and humble [fellow]. I bet you were a good dancer.

JD:The girl I finally married, she liked to dance with me.

RB: Was [this] your wife, Bertha [(Mitchell) Dunn]. How did you meet Bertha?

JD: I guess on the [dance] floor.

RB: You didn't know her in high school?

JD: Pardon?

RB:Did you know her in high school?

JD:Yes.

RB:Would you say you were high school sweethearts?

JD: She was just a year behind me. We kind of dated together from ─ she came 00:20:00in to the seventh grade [when] I was in the eighth [grade]. We [were] together quite a bit.

RB:I am looking a photograph on your wall. It looks like a young John Dunn with a pretty woman. Is that your wife?

JD: Yes.

RB:Yes. The picture I'm talking about it's the biggest picture on the wall. Was that after you were married? Or is that your marriage photo?

JD:That picture was taken in her front yard.

RB:Very nice. She was a beautiful woman.

JD:She was a nice companion.

RB:How many years were you married to her?

JD:What?

RB:How many years were you married to her?

JD: Seventy four [years].

RB:Wow! That is quite an accomplishment.

JD: Yes. There is her picture right over there.

RB:I see that. That is nice. She was your life long companion, I can tell that.

JD:She was what?

RB: She was your life long companion.

JD: You can say that, yes.

RB:[Laughter] You told me that you [were] married to her in 1939. So you were twenty years old and she was nineteen years old. You [had] been dating for a number of years and decided to get married. Were you still working at the hotel when you [were] married?

JD:Yes.

RB:Was she working at all?

JD:Do you remember [the] Woolworth stores?

RB: Oh absolutely, yes.

JD: She was working there. She was clerking there.

RB:[She was] clerking at Woolworths in Logan and you were [working] at the hotel. Was Woolworth's downtown on Main Street also?

JD: Sure was. About a half a block from the hotel.

RB: So after you [were] married where did you live?

JD:[We stayed] in Logan. [Do] you want the exact address?

RB: No, but did you rent an apartment?

JD:Yes, we rented an apartment.

RB:Now this is in 1939. Things are starting to get a little bit troublesome in Europe by that time. Hitler was doing some expansion [and] he was bombing, I think, England at that time.

JD: Who?

RB: Adolf Hitler.

JD: Yes.

RB: Were you aware of what was going on in the world [at] that time?

JD: Yes.

RB: What did you think about all that? Did you think we might be moving toward war?

JD: Yes.

RB: You told me that you joined the [United States] Navy. When did you join the Navy?

JD: [In] 1945.

RB: Oh, towards the end of the war then.

JD: Pretty close.

RB:What did you do during the war time years?

JD: I took boot camp in San Diego, California.

RB: Where did you enlist? In Salt Lake City?

JD: Yes.

RB: At the old ─

JD:Wait a minute. We [had] moved to Salt Lake [City].

RB:Okay.

JD: You remember the selective service?

RB:Yes.

JD: They come out with a directive, after awhile, and there were some [fellows who were] deferred for any particular reason. I had a wife and baby. I was 00:24:00deferred for awhile. The selective service came out with a directive that anybody [who] was twenty-five [years old] or older was in and no reason to not be.

RB: No deferments. By that time you were about twenty-six, twenty-five [years old]? As I recall, the recruiting center, or the place where people enlisted, was at the old train station?

JD: The what?

RB: Was it at the old train station in Salt Lake [City]? Where did you actually enlist?

JD: Ask me that again.

RB: Where did they have you go for enlistment? Before you went to San Diego, did 00:25:00you have to sign up some place?

JD: Oh, gad!

RB: I'm sorry if I am testing your brain from seventy years ago or more. That is not fair is it? [Laughter]

JD: I am trying to think how that worked?

RB:Did they send you a letter that [told] you [where] you had to report?

JD: Yes, I had a representative. I lived in a court were there was eight apartments in a "u" shape on the corner. There was a couple we [were] acquainted 00:26:00with ─ we became very friendly with them ─ did a lot of things with them. They had a good friend. I know one of them was in the Navy sometime. When it came time for me to get in the Navy, signed up, he helped me [get into] the Navy.

RB:Is that why you joined the Navy ─ because you had a friend [who] was in the Navy?

JD:Yes.

RB:After you signed up, you had to report. You took a bus down to San Diego?

JD: [I took a] train.

RB:The war was still going on when you [enlisted]? [Do] you remember what time of the year in 1945? Was that in the winter or ─?

JD:[It was] in the fall.

RB:In the fall of 1945? By that point they had already ended the war. Right? 00:27:00With the Japanese and the Germans?

JD: [That was] a little later. It ended [very] soon after I got in.

RB:What do you remember about boot camp?

JD: Just the training we [received].

RB:Was it hard?

JD: No.

RB:No? After boot camp, did they send you for some additional training to become a specialist in the Navy?

JD: I [was] hooked up on a ship with 300 other [fellows].

RB: [Do] you remember the ship's name?

JD:[What]?

RB: [Do] you remember the name of the ship?

JD: I don't.

RB:No? [It doesn't] matter. What did you do on the ship?

JD: Just rode on it.

RB:You didn't have an assignment on the ship at that point?

JD: No.

RB:Where did they take you?

JD: We boarded the ship in San Diego. I always heard it said there were 300 [fellows] on it. I never did hear anything officially. This was talk among the sailors. Then we were headed -- the war wasn't over yet. We were headed for the invasion in Japan. We sailed onto the Pacific Ocean for thirty-three days.

RB:Let me ask you this: had you ever been on a ship before?

JD: Before? No.

RB: Did you have any problems with sea sickness?

JD:[The] first night.

RB: Fight night? I can imagine! [Laughter] Did you finally get your sea legs?

JD: Yes.

RB:So [for] thirty-three nights you were on the ship and headed out west in the Pacific? Did you reach a port somewhere?

JD: What?

RB:Did you reach some port somewhere?

JD:No, we just sailed the Pacific [Ocean] for thirty-three days.

RB:Then what happened?

JD: They took us to Japan and we stayed there for occupational duty.

RB: Where did you go? [To] Yokosuka [Japan]? [Do] you remember?

JD: You know Sasebo [Japan]?

RB: Yes.

JD:Some people say Sasebo.

RB: Yes, I heard it as Sasebo. I was stationed in Japan also.

JD: Were you?

RB:Yes, I was at Yokota [Air Base] in near Tachikawa in Tokyo, but I went down to Yokota [Japan]. I [have] been to Sasebo down in the southern part, I think. Right? So you landed at Sasebo and you were a part of the Occupation Forces in Japan? What do did you do there? Do you recall?

JD: I did what they called the yeoman. That was pretty much the clerical part of the Navy.

RB: You had typing experience from high school and you worked as a clerical yeoman. That was good. What was Japan like back then? What was your experience?

JD: All I can say is I continued with yeoman assignments. Kept track of ─.

RB: Are you okay?

JD: Most [of] the time the men were involved in serving, the [fellows] stayed doing something for awhile after the war ended. About all I did was keep the record of [their] time in the Navy, the proper time they would be released and 00:32:00go home.

RB:That was a pretty important job because they were counting on you to keep good track of their service [time]. Did you ever go off the installation, the base into Japan at all?

JD: No.

RB:Did you ever meet any Japanese people there?

JD: Not to speak of.

RB: You worked with all Americans? How long were you there in Japan/

JD: A year and a half.

RB: Did you like your time there?

JD:I was pretty much involved thinking about my dear wife at home raising that young girl [Cora Dunn]. I wanted to get back to them.

RB: Were you homesick?

JD: Yes.

RB: I can imagine. What was the food like over there?

JD: It was our food [prepared on] the ship.

RB:[Did] you have some good chefs [who] cooked good food for you?

JD:I can't say the food was not good.

RB: Fair enough. [Did] you live on the ship?

JD: Yes.

RB:You were there a year and a half, so that would have taken you into 1946, [or] maybe to the end of 1946?

JD:To the end of 1945.

RB: You said you were in Japan in occupation for about a year and a half, so I am trying to figure out when you finally came home?

JD:When?

RB: Yes. [Do] you remember? Was [it] 1946?

JD:As I recall, the war ended in the summer of 1945.

RB:That is right.

JD:I was released soon after that.

RB: When you came home, did you end up in San Diego again?

JD:Say that again?

RB:When you came back from Japan, did your ship take you to San Diego?

JD: [We went to] San Francisco [California].

RB:[Was] that where you were discharged?

JD: Yes.

RB:Were there probably a lot of other sailors getting discharged at the same time? What did you do to get home? How did you get home?

JD: What, transportation? [I went on a] Greyhound bus.

RB: [You went on a] Greyhound [bus] to Salt Lake City from San Francisco? Did your wife meet you at the bus station or did you surprise her?

JD: She waited for me at home.

RB: Did she know what day you were going to get there?

JD: I called her from San Francisco.

RB:When you got home did you find everything in order? Were you happy to be home?

D: You bet!

RB: How old was your daughter, by that [time]?

JD: She was about four [years old].

RB:That must have been a nice reunion for you.

JD: Yes, it was.

RB:When you got back to Salt Lake [City], you are now a civilian again. Where did you go to work?

JD:[I went] back to my old job with the Greyhound [Bus] Lines.

RB: Were [you] a salesman for Greyhound?

JD:[I] sold tickets.

RB: [Did] you sell tickets at the Greyhound station there? Did you do that for a number of years?

JD: Counting all my time, for thirty-seven [years].

RB: Thirty-seven years with [the] Greyhound Bus Lines. Were they good employer for you? They took care of you?

JD:Very nice.

RB:That is great! Did your wife ever work outside the home?

JD: Yes.

RB:What did she do?

JD:There was a pharmacy, a little drug store, right there on Main Street in Salt Lake [City]. She worked there for awhile.

RB: You raised your two daughters, Cora and Connie [Dunn, in Salt Lake City]. Did they stay [there] after they grew up?

JD: Let see. Trying to think [is] hard. I guess [so].

RB: I am sorry.

JD: Oh, dear!

RB: No problem. Are your two daughters still alive?

JD:Yes.

RB: Where do they live now?

JD:Close by here.

RB: Both of them?

JD: Yes.

RB:That is wonderful!

JD:Not too far away.

RB:[Do] you have some grandchildren?

JD: Yes.

RB:Very good.

JD: I have nine [grandchildren].

RB:Nine grandchildren, very nice! You said you were married for seventy-four years so that would be ─ let me see, your wife passed away ─.

JD: About two years ago, approximately.

RB: Is she buried here?

JD: She is buried in Salt Lake City.

RB:Is that where you are going to [be] buried too?

JD: Pardon?

RB:Are you going to [be] buried there in Salt Lake [City]?

JD:I would prefer to be by her.

RB:Absolutely. I hope so.

JD:Are you acquainted [with Salt Lake City]?

RB:A little bit, yes.

JD: Did you ever hear of ─ [I] can't think of the name of it now.

RB:An old cemetery?

JD:What?

RB: What cemetery? Is it an old cemetery?

JD: Yes, [it has] been there for years. [Wasatch Lawn Memorial Park]

RB:When did you move to St. George?

JD: I [would] say a year ago.

RB: About a year ago? So your wife died in Salt Lake City?

JD:She did.

RB:[Did] you come down here because your daughters were here?

JD: [Shakes his head yes]

RB:That is nice. How long have you been here [at] the [Southern Utah] Veterans Home? [Has it been] about a year [since] you moved down here?

JD:[Shakes his head yes]

RB: Very good. How do you like it here?

JD: Fine. [They] treat you [very] well.

RB:Yes, I think it is a very, very nice place.

JD:[The] service is excellent.

RB: Yes, they take good care of you.

JD: They sure do!

RB: [Laughter] Let me just ask you, after you retired from the Greyhound Bus Lines, did you and your wife do any traveling at all?

JD: Oh, yes!

RB:[Where] are some places that you traveled to?

JD: We went to places in Salt Lake City. We took a bus trip once [and] we went 00:40:00east of Salt Lake [City] through Chicago [Illinois] and up to Boston [Massachusetts].

RB: That must have been a nice trip?

JD:Then we went [down the] south Atlantic sea-board. We have a picture of us in the lowest spot in the United States, in Florida.

RB:Oh, in Florida?

JD: Key West, [Florida].

RB:You went to Key West?

JD:You know Key West?

RB: Yes, I know [about] that. I have not been there, [but] I want to go there someday.

JD: We returned along the Gulf Coast, up through Texas, Colorado and back home.

RB:That was a grand tour of the United States [that] you took. Very nice [for] 00:41:00your wife and you. After you retired were you still active in [The] Church [of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]?

JD: Yes, we were. [Are] you a member The Church [of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]?

RB: Yes, I am.

JD: We were both served as ordinance workers in the Salt Lake Temple. Together we worked ten years and I worked another five [years]. Her health couldn't keep up with it.

RB:That was a very nice thing to do. It is very good to be in the temple.

JD: I enjoyed it very much.

RB:I bet you did! I am looking at the picture on your wall, this one over here. You two look very happy together. That is nice.

JD:She was [a] wonderful companion.

RB:I can imagine. You were a lucky man!

JD:I was, sure was.

RB: [Laughter] Is there anything else you like to share with me about your life? 00:42:00What is the secret of living to be ninety-nine years old? [Laughter]

JD: [Laughter]

RB: [Laughter] [Do] you have a philosophy about life [that] you like to share with me?

JD: One thing I feel, [it] is very important is keep active.

RB:Active, yes.

JD: Keep active.

RB:Were you physically active? What kind of things did you do to stay active?

JD:I worked for years in the temple.

RB:Yes, that keeps you busy and keeps your memory sharp. You had to memorize a lot of things. Right?

JD: Sure did!

JD: Yes.

RB: That is good. So keeping active, did you take good care of your body?

JD: Pardon?

RB: I assume you took pretty good care of your body?

JD:[I] tried to.

RB:Eat well and that sort of thing? Yes, that is good. Your wife died a couple years ago, [did] she live to be, maybe, ninety-seven [years old]?

JD:Oh, no.

RB:No?

JD:[She was] ninety-four [years old].

RB:Ninety-four, I am sorry. Well, the two of you had a nice long life together. That was good.

JD: Yes, we did.

RB:I appreciate you sharing with me some of your stories and your life. We will go ahead and end [this interview] right now, but I am honored to meet you.

JD:Nice to meet you, Randy.

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